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8 Thg 12 2022

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Do you know some "cognates" between Thai and Vietnamese (probably only words of Chinese origin)

These are the ones I've found:

1. saddle | T: อาน aan | V: yên
2. charcoal | T: ถ่าน thaan | V: than
3. to change; to become different | T: เปลี่ยน bplìian | V: biến
4. to ride | T: ขี่ kìi | V: cưỡi (ride a horse)
5. money | T: เงิน ngən | V: ngân (compounds)
6. ink | T: หมึก mʉ̀k | V: mực
7. guest, customer | T: แขก kɛ̀ɛk | V: khách
8. shop, store | T: ห้าง hâang | V: hàng
9. horse | T: ม้า máa | V: mã (compounds)
10. 10.000 | T: หมื่น mʉ̀ʉn | V: vạn
11. waist | T: เอว eeo | V: eo
12. to dye | ย้อม yɔ́ɔm | V: nhuộm
13. playing cards | T: ไพ่ pâi | V: bài
14. friend, companion | T: เพื่อน pʉ̂ʉan | V: bạn
15. to lose; to fail | พ่าย pâai | V: bại
16. to peel | T: ปอก bpɔ̀ɔk | V: bóc
17. way | ทาง taang | V: đường
18. to add on/to | T: แถม tɛ̌ɛm | V: thêm
19. to point; to show | T: ชี้ chíi | V: chỉ
20. price | T: ค่า kâa | V: giá
21. pliers | T: คีม kiim | V: kìm
22. narrow | T: แคบ kɛ̂ɛp | V: hẹp

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nguyenlinh2304

8 Thg 12 2022

Tiếng Việt

hi there. I'm Vietnamese and actually I really don't know cognates between thai and Vietnam like you said? why you want to know about this? I'm curious about this.

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yang11511

8 Thg 12 2022

Tiếng Việt

It sounds interesting.
I also learned Thai, but didn't notice that.
I know one word, T: ต้วนซิ่ว \ V: đoạn tụ =]]

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Polyglott

8 Thg 12 2022

Tiếng Đức Tương đối thành thạo

@nguyenlinh2304

Hi. I've learned Vietnamese in the past and right now I'm learning Thai. Since the 2 languages don't have much in common, except for similar phonology and tones.. I was looking for way a to learn Thai the "easier" way (the more languages you know, the easier it get to learn a new language, even if the languages aren't related. There is always some advantage to it).

For example, Mandarin, Cantonese, Korean and Japanese share thousands of cognates with Vietnamese. But this is not the case with Thai. However I still could find some words in Thai (Chinese origin) that sound similar to Vietnamese.
And I'm hoping to find more 😀

Polyglott

8 Thg 12 2022

Tiếng Đức Tương đối thành thạo

@yang11511
That's a good one! Thanks
How was it for you to learn Thai? Did you have many struggles with learning as a Vietnamese?
I've learned Vietnamese, and it benefits me quite a lot for learning Thai.
Especially the tones, but also the sounds

yang11511

8 Thg 12 2022

Tiếng Việt

@Polyglott I learned Thai by myself, so it's kind of difficult, especially the alphabet 🤣
But the grammar, sentence structure are really similar to Vietnamese, around 70%, I guess.
It's much more easier for me to learn Thai.
For me, Japanese is more difficult 😅

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Polyglott

8 Thg 12 2022

Tiếng Đức Tương đối thành thạo

@yang11511

Wow, that's impressive 👍 congratulations! Yes indeed, the Thai alphabet drives me crazy 😂😂

yang11511

8 Thg 12 2022

Tiếng Việt

@Polyglott But as you said, there are not too many cognates between Thai and Vietnamese. It's so hard to remember tons of new words.
I like your method 🤟

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Dunghexa

8 Thg 12 2022

Tiếng Việt

May be they have the same etymologies or it's just a coincidence (like "cut" in English and "cắt" in Vietnamese). The origin of Vietnamese have many "mystery" and it is influenced by some old Tai-Kradai languages. Also Thai is influenced by old Khmer language (same belong to Mon-Khmer branch) and Chinese language.

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Polyglott

8 Thg 12 2022

Tiếng Đức Tương đối thành thạo

@Dunghexa
I see, that makes sense. There might be many more... However the words I listed above are Thai words that derived from Chinese. Unfortunately I couldn't find more of these.
Thai has mainly Sanskrit, Pali, Khmer words and only a handful of Chinese (I think) Whereas Vietnamese has a ton of Chinese, it's fascinating 😀

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Do you know some "cognates" between Thai and Vietnamese (probably only words of Chinese origin)

These are the ones I've found:

1. saddle | T: อาน aan | V: yên
2. charcoal | T: ถ่าน thaan | V: than
3. to change; to become different | T: เปลี่ยน bplìian | V: biến
4. to ride | T: ขี่ kìi | V: cưỡi (ride a horse)
5. money | T: เงิน ngən | V: ngân (compounds)
6. ink | T: หมึก mʉ̀k | V: mực
7. guest, customer | T: แขก kɛ̀ɛk | V: khách
8. shop, store | T: ห้าง hâang | V: hàng
9. horse | T: ม้า máa | V: mã (compounds)
10. 10.000 | T: หมื่น mʉ̀ʉn | V: vạn
11. waist | T: เอว eeo | V: eo
12. to dye | ย้อม yɔ́ɔm | V: nhuộm
13. playing cards | T: ไพ่ pâi | V: bài
14. friend, companion | T: เพื่อน pʉ̂ʉan | V: bạn
15. to lose; to fail | พ่าย pâai | V: bại
16. to peel | T: ปอก bpɔ̀ɔk | V: bóc
17. way | ทาง taang | V: đường
18. to add on/to | T: แถม tɛ̌ɛm | V: thêm
19. to point; to show | T: ชี้ chíi | V: chỉ
20. price | T: ค่า kâa | V: giá
21. pliers | T: คีม kiim | V: kìm
22. narrow | T: แคบ kɛ̂ɛp | V: hẹp

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hi there. I'm Vietnamese and actually I really don't know cognates between thai and Vietnam like you said? why you want to know about this? I'm curious about this.

It sounds interesting.I also learned Thai, but didn't notice that.I know one word, T: ต้วนซิ่ว \ V: đoạn tụ =]]

@Polyglott I learned Thai by myself, so it's kind of difficult, especially the alphabet 🤣But the grammar, sentence structure are really similar to Vietnamese, around 70%, I guess.It's much more easier for me to learn Thai.For me, Japanese is more difficult 😅

@Polyglott But as you said, there are not too many cognates between Thai and Vietnamese. It's so hard to remember tons of new words.I like your method 🤟

It sounds interesting.
I also learned Thai, but didn't notice that.
I know one word, T: ต้วนซิ่ว \ V: đoạn tụ =]]

@Polyglott I learned Thai by myself, so it's kind of difficult, especially the alphabet 🤣
But the grammar, sentence structure are really similar to Vietnamese, around 70%, I guess.
It's much more easier for me to learn Thai.
For me, Japanese is more difficult 😅

@Polyglott But as you said, there are not too many cognates between Thai and Vietnamese. It's so hard to remember tons of new words.
I like your method 🤟